* MTV. *
-SCARLET: Happy birthday, Frank! -(overlapping cheers)
JENNIFER: Sly was able to leave the Tulsa King set
to come home and help celebrate Frank's birthday.
I think the gifts should be first.
JENNIFER: We are all super excited.
Now we all get to be together.
This is from all of us girls.
-SOPHIA: It's a girls' gift. -It's a girls' gift.
Condoms? No, wait a second.
(groans)
Jesus Christ.
My brother was born with the curse
of being super honest and unfiltered.
(laughs) At times.
It's like a guido cowboy.
Hey, yo, bring that fucking horse over here.
But it's never dull.
FRANK: Am I supposed to do the podcast?
-What do you mean? -What do you mean?
Why not? No, I'm serious.
My sister Sophia and I run a podcast called Unwaxed.
Welcome to the Unwaxed podcast.
It is about everything.
From mental health to dating to sex.
-Oh, we're kissing a lot. -Possibly with tongue.
Of course with tongue!
What we wanted to make sure is that we are your best friends.
And that we're there for you.
This podcast is like dating.
We've had this for two-plus years.
This is the longest relationship I have ever been in.
SISTINE: It's been so much fun to have
this baby that we started together and see it grow.
I never saw it.
Never watched it. I thought it was about
surfboards or something, unwaxed or...
A bunch of young gals, like, talking about their boyfriends.
And like, "Whatever." You know, stuff like that.
But I had a documentary come out on my life,
and I thought they would say,
"Uncle Frank, why don't you come on the show
and talk about your new, uh, documentary?"
And that didn't happen.
I think it may've turned me a little sour.
You know what? We should do a Unwaxed
about the first time I had sex.
Oh, my God!
-Oh, no. -I am the shag man.
Frank, stop! Stop.
Fucking Stallones. Jesus Christ.
You think my nieces are, like, PC?
Check!
* Talk to me, baby *
* I'm going blind from this sweet, sweet craving, whoa-oh *
* Let's lose our minds and go crazy, crazy *
* I-I-I-I-I-I *
* I-I-I-I-I-I. *
* *
WAITER: You guys still need a moment to check
-over the lunch menus for this afternoon? -What are you guys known for?
WAITER: You guys ever had Rocky Mountain oysters before?
-SOPHIA: No, I've never... -Tell her what they are.
They are thinly sliced, deep-fried lamb testicles.
-Oh, God, no. -WAITER: No?
-You don't want to give those a try? -Staying away from anything...
-Scarlet. -Hey.
Little lamb testicle tasting.
Okay, I'll do that.
-Oh, my God. -SCARLET: I'll try it. (laughs)
WAITER: Here we go.
I'm at dinner with my parents tonight,
and we're celebrating a recent career opportunity.
Oh, here we go.
This is the ball of Baa Baa Black Sheep.
-(laughs) -(laughs) Oh, God.
It's good.
JENNIFER: She likes it.
(bleating): It's pretty good.
Did you just do a lamb impression?
I was trying to do a lamb impression.
-(laughs) -Not very good.
You know when I realized you were kind of famous?
I was performing this school play,
and I was given one line.
I literally go, "Ah! Why don't you think a little?"
And the whole room was dead silent.
The only voice I heard was, "Hey, attagirl."
-Attagirl. -SCARLET: My classmates were freaking out.
They were like, "Your dad."
And I go, "What?"
(laughs) Why are you freaking out over this guy?
And all the parents were asking to take photos.
And then that's when I realized, "Dad's really famous."
-Yeah. -"He's really good."
-Aw. Thank you, sweetheart. -Yeah.
-Yeah. I remember that. -And now it's your turn.
I hope.
SCARLET: When I was younger,
I fell in love with acting
because I loved performing.
Didn't matter what club. It didn't matter what play.
I would take different classes-- improv, whatnot.
Whether if it's a really good acting class
or a really weird one.
It's like I say, just embrace the moment
and express yourself,
and not be worried about what other people think.
-Yeah. -That's it.
SYLVESTER: Acting is a profession
that's about 97% guaranteed unemployment.
(laughs) That's the truth.
It really is that difficult.
So when Scarlet comes up to me
and goes, "Dad, I want to be an actress,"
I went, "Oh, God."
But if it's in your blood, it's in your blood,
so I wanted to see if she really had it.
There's a part, a small part, in Tulsa King.
I'm not guaranteeing anything because I don't own the show,
I don't run it, but I can make proper introductions.
-Fair enough? -(gasps)
Yes.
(laughter)
SYLVESTER: When Tulsa King came along,
I thought, you know,
I'd love to do something with her.
I mean, while I'm still on this earth,
wouldn't it be nice to have some moments with my daughter?
And I didn't know if it was gonna go any further because
I left that up to the powers that be, but she nailed it.
Thank you so much. (chuckles)
-What happened? -I got a part in Tulsa King.
You did?
(laughing): Oh, my baby.
Do you know the top fears in the world?
Public speaking.
Speaking. How about public singing?
I tried it once.
And it was a horror.
But you can sing. You're good.
Ooh, Dad, that's...
Ready? Let's have a little Amy Winehouse. Ready? Go.
Scarlet is in the house.
-Let's not... -(Jennifer chuckling)
-You want to hear her sing? Seriously. -No, no, no, no, no.
-PATRONS: Yes! -Sing.
You know what's even better? Your singing.
That's even better.
* Last night I went out honky-tonkin' *
* Dressed up in my very best *
* I just want to fall in love. *
-(whoops, laughs) -(applause)
Thank you. I was born with a big shy bone.
-(laughter) -What the...?
Sorry, that didn't sound right, but...
(laughter)
Did it? I meant "shy bone in my body," okay?
-JENNIFER: Oh, yeah, yeah. -SYLVESTER: That's it, folks.
Tomorrow night, 8:00, same place.
-(laughs) -We're drawing the curtain on that one.
SCARLET: Oh, my God. (laughing)
SISTINE: It's so hot.
I don't lose.
Scarlet, you're on nipple check.
SCARLET: No, I might give the crowd a little...
a little taste.
-No, thank you. Oh, no! -You idiot.
-Well, game over. Oh, well. -Nice job, nice job.
Oh, Sophia. Um, I got a very interesting voice mail.
-From? -Frank.
"Hey, sweetie. How are you?
"Anyway, listen, when do you girls
-want to have me on your podcast?" -We're not having him on.
-Why? -What do you mean why?
I get he was, you know, mocking us
and making fun of the show before, but...
He has not said anything positive about it,
has never promoted it.
Also, he's too controversial.
Like, there's things that he says
that I don't agree with, honestly...
Yeah, but we can edit it, Sophia. We edit the shows.
My uncle Frank says things to get a shock.
I love when you girls fight. It's so Californian.
(Valley girl voice): "Okay, whatever."
-See, that is why we aren't close. -We don't sound like that.
It's because you used to do that stuff
where you would make fun of us.
(blows raspberry)
It can be funny, but also it can be borderline offensive.
It's caused our relationship to always be
a little bit of a difficult one.
I think what makes me mad the most
is if anyone understands being in the shadow
of our dad and working really hard to make it,
it should be him.
Maybe this is him reaching out an olive branch.
SISTINE: I think my Uncle Frank,
although he's crazy,
I think he's very entertaining.
It would be a great episode.
He has lots of stories.
And that's what our viewers love.
We could find someone else.
We don't-- We can have Scarlet on again.
-Hey. -SISTINE: I mean, yeah, we can always have Scarlet on.
We've had her on so many times.
-Hey? -(snickering)
I-I know where you're coming from.
You got to put your business hat on.
Think about what it'll do for our sponsorships.
I don't know why you listen to what he has to say.
I just don't think he works for our show.
I get that. Sophia, look, he says a lot of stupid things.
No, I think my feelings are valid.
SISTINE: I think it would mean a lot to Dad, too, honestly.
SOPHIA: I don't know. I don't want to keep talking
about it. It just...
gets me a little frustrated. (sighs)
I don't think he's coming on.
All right, she needs a cookie.
* I don't know what we're waiting for... *
(barking)
SCARLET: Mom!
Buster, no.
Oh, God. Buster, you ate all of my food.
* On your mark, ready, set, let's go. *
-Hi! -What are you guys doing here?
Man of the hour. We were just talking about you.
I don't think so, but nice try.
SOPHIA: Your whole fit is very cohesive. I like it.
The Rolling Rock, the plaid, the cowboy boots.
I'm getting in touch with my inner buckaroo.
SISTINE: Um, Sophia and I were just talking about Frank,
and then we were talking to him
at dinner about having him on our podcast.
-And what's the problem? -SISTINE: Sophia's the problem.
-SOPHIA: I'm not. -SISTINE: Yeah, you are.
I wouldn't say I'm considered the problem.
I'm just a little bit hesitant about having him on.
I don't blame you.
He's gonna go on some rants.
All the stuff is, like, way too controversial,
and I don't want to get in trouble.
Bottom line, it's a controversial guest,
-but he's also family. -Yeah.
I like the fact that he throws a little pepper in your life.
Yeah, and I throw it back.
We were always worried that you didn't have that thing.
-Me? -SYLVESTER: Yeah, that feisty factor.
Well, actually, we were worried about both of you
-for the same reason. -SOPHIA: Yeah.
Oh, you're a celebrity's child, right?
Yeah.
We'd go, "Ugh, are they gonna be too milquetoast,
-or thin, or tepid? -(laughs) Milk--
-Or not have the street-y thing? -SISTINE: Yeah. Yeah.
I'm just saying that genetics kicked in.
Around 13, you became monsters.
-I'd agree with that. -Yeah.
Oh, thank you.
But you learned how to stand up for yourself.
That's why you went and did the podcast. You did it on your own.
-I didn't help. -Yeah.
Now, you got to take the next step forward,
bring in Uncle Frank,
and realize, "Wow, I have really progressed."
SOPHIA: Dad would love if I had a better relationship with Frank.
Family's everything,
so if it matters to my dad,
it really does matter to me.
I think it's gonna be hysterical.
It will definitely be memorable,
-that's for sure. -Cheers. Good luck.
I know. Cheers.
-See you in the movies. -Oh, God.
You, too.
Are you a little nervous?
I'm quite nervous.
Are you nervous? No. Are you nervous?
SYLVESTER: I'm always nervous.
When you're nervous, that means you care.
-Right, Jennifer? -I'm always nervous. (laughs)
We're gonna miss our flight if you don't hurry up, Sly.
SYLVESTER: The only one not nervous is Winnie.
(indistinct chatter)
PRODUCER: And then where your father's shooting today
is in Stage One over here, so...
This place is huge.
* *
SCARLET: I finally made it to Oklahoma City.
I'm here to shoot with my dad for Tulsa King.
It makes me so nervous. Oh, my goodness.
Love you, baby. Mwah. Okay, go for it.
SCARLET: I'm gonna be shooting
my scene in a couple of days.
In the show, I play a barista,
and I end up taking care of the main character's horse.
SYLVESTER: The only thing I was gonna suggest was when we go,
"Business? Yeah, what kind of business?
-None of your fucking business." -Yeah, yeah, it's... Okay, okay.
SYLVESTER: That's when you realize you got a problem.
-I know what you mean. Yeah, I got you. -Yeah.
Ready. And... action!
SCARLET: My dad created his own success.
The man came out of nowhere, wrote his own story,
and built his empire from ground zero, nothing.
And it truly inspires me to work harder.
SYLVESTER: You better stop calling me that, pal.
ACTOR: Hey, look, ain't nobody gonna tell me
what to say in my own cab. You got that?
-DIRECTOR: Cut! -SYLVESTER: You got to keep escalating.
But do you need to clock something
-in order to motivate to stop the car? -Yeah.
SCARLET: It's a lot of pressure because I'm doing this with my dad,
and I know that
he believes in me.
And I just really want to make him proud.
DIRECTOR: All right, we're doing again, guys. Go to one.
* *
JENNIFER: Scarlet's in hair and makeup.
Don't be nervous. She's got this in the bag.
I-I have confidence in her.
* Who are you gonna be when you step outside? *
* You got to make that lightning strike *
* You went back in *
* A room of blue *
* You're Fred Astaire, walking on air *
* With the golden touch *
* You're the one, you decide *
Hey.
Okay.
I'm-I'm basically done with hair and makeup.
Love you.
* Who are you gonna be when you step outside? *
* You got to make that lightning strike. *
-MAN: They're ready for you. -SCARLET: Okay, cool.
-There she is. -I'm here. Hi. -Hey, how are you?
-Hey, how do you do? -Scarlet. Nice to meet you.
Guy. Great. Nice meeting you.
Okay, we're gonna do blocking.
Let me show Scarlet a couple things.
SCARELT: I am so nervous
walking onto that set.
My heart's just pounding.
I need to take a big breath.
This is not like school plays.
You can just sort of step up behind your dad
-and, you know, talk to him there. -Okay.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
This is what I've wanted, so...
don't screw this up, Scarlet. (laughs)
DIRECTOR: Here we go. Picture's up.
Action!
SYLVESTER: How you doing? I'm looking to buy a horse.
I'm sorry, señor. Knacker's on his way.
That's the owner?
A knacker is a person that gets rid of dead animals.
And cut!
(laughter)
Pretty damn good, guys.
(indistinct chatter)
(laughter)
Jesus Christ...
Right to the table, and, uh... Let's do it.
Yeah.
And action!
We haven't met. My name is Dwight.
-Spencer. -Hey, Spencer.
Nice to meet you, officially.
But I'm actually leaving. Today's my last day.
Oh. You have another job?
Not yet. Still looking.
GUY (laughing): Cut! You nailed it.
That was so good.
That is a wrap.
SCARLET: I'm so sad that it's all over.
I was looking forward to this moment for so long,
and now that I'm walking off set, like,
it's sad. Like, I wanted just to go back,
and I enjoyed every moment of it.
SYLVESTER: I think children of celebrities
feel as though that they need
their parent's name to perhaps become successful,
but that's not the truth.
The truth is you have to have talent,
because the audience will not accept anything but that.
So you either have it or you don't.
And I believe Scarlet has it.
What'd you think?
-Good. -So...
Sometimes you're too hard on yourself.
Like me. (scoffs)
-SOPHIA: Hi. -SISTINE: Hello!
Hi, guys. Hi, guys.
(busy chatter)
SOPHIA: This is gonna be very interesting today.
So, where are these little squirts? In there?
-Thank you. It's perfect. -All right. The party has begun.
(cheering)
-Uncle Frank... -Welcome, welcome. -You made it.
-...has arrived. -SISTINE: Finally.
-Your presence in the Unwaxed studio. -Thank you.
-What do you think of our studio? -What do you think?
What's with the skulls? Is that like a...
SOPHIA: I don't know. Sistine chose it.
SISTINE: We tried, I tried to be quirky.
It's a little excessive, a little much.
SOPHIA: My fear is that Uncle Frank
says something so wrong
that I have to cut and work hours and hours
to make sure he doesn't get canceled or something crazy.
Everyone ready? Okay.
Here goes nothing. Well, I'm only kidding.
SOPHIA: This show's called Unwaxed.
It's not called Unfiltered.
SISTINE: Okay, you guys.
Known for his extensive music career,
he has three platinum albums, ten gold albums,
and has even acted in over 60 films.
-Our Uncle Frank. -Our Uncle Frank!
-Thank you, my loves. -(whoops) Studio audience!
Aka Frank Stallone, people.
-My little sweeties, thank you. Yeah. -SISTINE: Aw.
-I think we should just jump right into your music career. -Okay.
That is what you're known for.
You're a guitarist, a songwriter.
I started singing really kind of around the house
when I was five years old.
My aunt, uh, Nancy...
(Italian accent): She spoke like this.
She talk... No, they're all...
This whole podcast is gonna be accents.
FRANK: Yeah, they were all off the boat. So they go,
(Italian accent): "I hear that tonight this, uh, Elvis guy
gonna be on the TV."
This is exactly what I want to be.
-I mean, the floppy hair... -Elvis was your icon?
-Oh, so Elvis was the inspiration? -FRANK: Oh, absolutely.
This will probably tell you why I'm not married.
My mother was married five times.
-My father was married four times. -Right.
-Boing. (laughs) -Boing.
Yeah, really good blueprint out there for, like...
you know, for marriage, so...
-Good examples, yes. -Yeah, really good examples.
My mother had taken off. She left.
She had married this other guy.
When my mother came back,
she did a nice Christmas for us.
Probably the only good one we had.
She bought two ukuleles
for my brother and I,
thinking we're gonna be like The Everly Brothers.
Within two hours, he smashed it over my head. Terrible.
SISTINE: What is wrong...? He's so jealous.
FRANK: He was the original Dennis the Menace.
SOPHIA: Yeah.
He was getting in fights every day.
So then he kind of got into superheroes.
He jumped off the roof of the house.
-Broke his collarbone. -Oh, I remember this. Yeah.
My father was like, "Goddamn it, they're not..."
And my father was pretty mean.
Sly can't understand to this day. I said, "Sly,
"you snuck out of the house at 13 and stole his Cadillac
and got into an accident."
-Oh, I didn't... -Okay, see, you know what?
That's why I like talking to you.
FRANK: That's true.
Because Sly never tells the truth about a story.
FRANK: No. Never.
And we get the honest truth from you.
FRANK: That is true.
SISTINE: I would have to say, one of my favorite stories
was something to do with a black sea urchin.
He stuck it in my hea-- face and hair.
I hate, I hate skin diving.
So we were-- He'd go,
"Hey, you want to take skin diving lessons?"
I go, "Not really."
And my hair was like down to here.
And we're under there.
All of a sudden, he pulls my mask off,
and I go into total panic mode.
I come up, I go, "What are you doing, man?"
(imitates Sylvester's laugh)
-(laughs) Such an ass. -So then he finds
this sea urchin, and he sticks it like right...
kind of in my hair and face.
-And it just latches. -Latches. You can't get it out.
Latches to his hair.
So, now I come out of the water
looking like a total moron, with a sea urchin,
like, stuck in my hair, and he thinks it's funny.
SISTINE: Yeah.
But I was really afraid.
I don't like being underwater, or like...
Oh, that's like me.
In my documentary, we talk about my panic attack era.
Want to ask how you were able to cope with it
in your generation?
Because, today, it's a different time.
We have way more resources, tools, help.
FRANK: Well, there was no resources, no.
So, how did you go through that?
Well, you have weird thoughts.
You have gory thoughts. You have fear thoughts.
-What saved me was music, because I... -SISTINE: Wow.
When I'd be onstage, I'd be fine.
-I really wanted to ask how... -Oh, wait, that makes sense
where I got it from.
I actually should take some advice from you.
I had no idea he suffered panic attacks.
I mean, that's something that I've gone through
since childhood.
Honestly, it makes me sad.
I wish I had talked to him about it more,
but I'm really, really glad
that we're having this conversation now.
It makes me feel a lot more bonded with him
than I had felt before.
Well, thank you guys so much
-for listening to this with him. -Girls, I love you.
-I'm so happy you had me on this show. -We love him.
And we will see you next Tuesday.
-Bye. -SOPHIA: Bye.
Yay, that's a wrap. (whoops)
FRANK: See?
See? I wasn't the bad Santa.
Oh. (laughs)
(laughter)
* *
JENNIFER: Almost done. I'm just waiting on this broccoli.
SYLVESTER: Jennifer, how much broccoli...?
-(laughing) -Who's gonna eat all this broccoli?
Honey, I love broccoli.
I-I mean, you still have... Come on, Jennifer.
You love me, honey. Right? (laughs)
Yeah, I know, but I'm starving, Jen.
JENNIFER: Um, so everyone wonders how you stay so trim.
-This is it. -JENNIFER: And this is it.
How'd you like the first day in front of the camera?
-I had a great time. -You did?
Yeah. I was super nervous
'cause it was my first time ever doing it.
-Yeah. -And I was thinking,
"I can't believe this is happening."
It was surreal for me.
I'm looking around and go, "That's my daughter." Hey.
(laughter)
-Today was a milestone. It is. -It was.
When my dad gives me compliments about acting,
it really just motivates me to keep going forward.
And I realize that I'm doing something that I love.
You know what made it so much more comfortable?
-Your crew is so great. -They are.
They are so nice, and they're so warm.
So I'm glad you took that away.
These people around you
have-- they're blood and guts and a soul,
and they're not just there.
You know who really taught me that?
-Who? -Dolly Parton.
-SCARLET: Really? -SYLVESTER: The best.
So, Dolly Junior, learn that, okay?
I have to say, she blew me off the screen.
Hmm.
You can't have two firsts. That's it, there's one.
That's it.
You get one shot at it, and you did it.
You succeeded.
That was the biggest compliment you've ever given me.
(laughs)
The last time I was happy was when I was
-riding horses with you. -Hmm.
Chart a different course.
I honestly feel a bit rejected.
SOPHIA: I was born with a hole in my heart.
I have a checkup
-at the end of next week. -Shit.
Walking into that office, I am freaking out.
* Come on now, roll with the crazy *
* Dance like 1980 *
* Ooh, ooh *
* Roll with the crazy *
* Dance like 1980 *
* *
* Roll with me, baby *
* You ain't gonna save me *
* Ooh, ooh. *
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