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TRAVIS: My whole life, I've been fascinated by the universe
and what's out there beyond Earth.
It led me to obtain advanced degrees
in astrophysics, aerospace engineering,
and optical science.
Then I got to work over the past three decades
with NASA, the U.S. Army, and the Department of Defense.
Travis.
-Hey, Brandon. How you doing? -Brandon Fugal.
TRAVIS: Four years ago,
I got the chance of a lifetime
to join an amazing team
in their investigation of the most bizarre place
I'd ever heard of:
Skinwalker Ranch.
At first, I was skeptical of all the legends,
but from day one, we've experienced things together
that I thought were only possible in science fiction.
-What are you seeing? -A signal?
TRAVIS: Massive energy spikes that come out of nowhere...
TRAVIS: 1.60000.
BRYANT: Boy that thing sounds like it's hitting something.
TRAVIS: ...evidence of a 400-foot-long,
dome-shaped object buried inside a rocky mesa.
Yeah, I'm up against something pretty hard right now.
TRAVIS: ...inexplicable animal deaths...
There's no sign of struggle, it's just dead.
TRAVIS: ...and a ton of UAPs.
Look, look, look, what is that?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
-UAP right there! -Yup.
TRAVIS: Recently, some documents were released
to the public about a program run by the Pentagon
known as UAPTF.
The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force.
TRAVIS: It was created about four years ago
for the study of UAPs
and phenomena like what we've experienced on Skinwalker Ranch.
These documents also revealed that I was the chief scientist
for the UAPTF, and I helped to author
the official report that was presented to Congress in 2021.
However, I wasn't permitted to disclose
any of this to the team on the ranch.
So, now, as I'm returning to join them once again
for what I consider to be the most critical investigation
of the UAP phenomenon in the world,
I'm real eager to discuss what I can with them,
and I'm curious what their response will be.
NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah.
It is considered the epicenter
of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth:
animal mutilations,
bizarre UFO sightings
and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans.
For 20 years, the federal government
tried to find answers and failed.
Now a new team of dedicated scientists,
researchers and experts has taken over.
They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal...
...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.
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Hey, Dragon, this is, uh, Cameron.
I have Brandon on board.
We're on the perimeter of Skinwalker Ranch. We're inbound.
BRANDON: I'm Brandon Fugal, the owner of Skinwalker Ranch.
I'm really excited to pull together the team today.
Every time that we enter the ranch,
there are new discoveries and
sometimes new dangers that arise.
We've seen more evidence of the reality of the phenomenon,
and we are committed to getting the answers.
CAMERON: Here we come in
for our landing at the Skinwalker Ranch helipad.
BRANDON: The revelation that Dr. Taylor
had been acting as the chief scientist
for the Pentagon's UAP Task Force
came as a shock to all of us.
I think we're still processing
the reality of what that means.
I found it to be intriguing.
I found it to be confirmation
that we are truly on to something.
-Hey. -Welcome back.
-Good to see you, friend. -You, too.
Hey, Kaleb. Oh, it's good to be back.
BRYANT: We're ready to kick off another phase of this investigation.
It's always good to see my good friend Brandon,
and we're excited to get him up to date
on what we've been doing.
-Is the team assembled? -Yep.
Great.
THOMAS: Today, we kick off
the new research investigation this summer.
I left last year being pretty disturbed
about some of the things that I witnessed,
and so, I wonder, you know, what lies ahead
and what crazy things are we gonna experience this year?
Let's proceed. We've got a-a big day ahead of us.
And an exciting time to kick off this phase of the investigation.
-Great to have Dr. Taylor back. -Thank you.
BRANDON: We had some interesting surprises over the last weeks
with Dr. Taylor,
the former chief scientist for the Pentagon's UAP Task Force.
Uh, it would be great to hear you shed some light on
your role and how that has, uh,
impacted our investigation and-and how
that may influence things moving forward.
Sure. Uh,
well, so it started in a way
that you'd be surprised, actually.
So, that first summer, back in 2019, I guess it was,
there were some, uh, signals that we had measured,
that I was concerned, uh,
was a national security implication, and
it was this 1.6 gigahertz signal.
Really?
Erik, are you doing something at 1.6?
I'm not broadcasting.
TRAVIS: Over the past three years,
we've repeatedly detected an energy frequency measuring
1.6 gigahertz...
(loud radio static)
What-what the heck is that?
TRAVIS: ...which we've suspected could be
some kind of communication signal.
Now, normal human technology like cell phones and radios
don't typically operate at that frequency.
So, with all the bizarre phenomena we've seen out here,
I wondered who or what
could be broadcasting that signal out here on the ranch.
TRAVIS: I went to the Pentagon to brief,
to find out if this was us doing it or if it was
somebody else doing it.
Foreign adversaries that may be involved.
Yes, and-and I had-- So, I had to report it
to the right officials.
So, I went to a room in the Pentagon,
and I, uh, I briefed, uh,
what I'd seen, and then this guy
comes into the room, and, uh, he asks
everybody else but me to leave.
And he said, "I'm the director of the UAP Task Force.
"This is very interesting, and what I'd like to do is invite
"you to, uh, come on-on board and be the chief scientist
for the Task Force."
And he presented me
to both Congress and the White House
as the chief scientist of the Task Force,
and, uh, and it wasn't until
he and I both retired within the last six months,
and, uh, we were approved to r-reveal
that we actually were a part of that-that Task Force.
BRANDON: Interesting. Were they able
to shed light on whether we're dealing
with a foreign adversary or the nature
of what we're recording here at Skinwalker Ranch?
TRAVIS: So, according to the charter written
in the National Defense Authorization Act,
they had to tell us if they were doing something.
Turns out it's not us, it's not anybody
that we know of, so what is it?
I know a lot of our team members have been really concerned
that they weren't actually privy to your role.
Yeah, well,
you know, I was bound by an oath and legal, uh, requirements.
I could not say it. If I would've said it,
I'd have gone to jail.
Right? I can tell you now that, uh, I'm in
the private sector, and I see this as a huge opportunity here.
That, uh, hopefully, we'll see assets come available for us.
-Well, it has to be reciprocal. -I agree.
-This has to be a give-and-take. -Yeah.
Especially when we're dealing with
-such sensitive material. -TRAVIS: I agree.
TRAVIS: It was hard for me to keep information
from everyone on the ranch because
it's critical that we act and feel like a team.
But I also completely understand why the government
needed me to keep some things confidential.
Thankfully, now that I've left the UAP Task Force,
there will be no more need for secrets.
I can say from, uh, my personal, uh, experience here,
and from, uh, what we've, uh, uncovered and investigated,
this is a hot spot that, uh,
everybody's looking at, and-and
they wish they had the access that we have
on the daily basis to do the tests and measurements.
So, if I'm correct here,
it was the work that you started doing here
that led to your opportunity
-to be part of... -TRAVIS: That's right.
That's coming from the guy that told us we were all nuts
when we first invited you to come out here.
(laughs) I knew you were gonna say that.
Just saying, I love it.
ERIK: Dr. Taylor's involvement with the UAP Task Force,
this is of course a revelation.
It doesn't really change my outlook
on his contributions here,
but I also welcome any insights that may have come out
of his involvement with the UAP Task Force.
So, Erik, what would you propose as far as experiments?
We've got a lot of planned activities.
Um, some of them based in the work that we did
the last time we were all together.
One of the big findings, of course, was
what was inside that mesa.
Right.
And what did we pull out? Metal.
Right. It's an aerospace-style,
manufactured material,
not something that happens naturally.
Yeah.
TRAVIS: Last year,
while drilling horizontally into the mesa...
Wow, look at all the metal.
TRAVIS: ...we extracted pieces of metal from a massive,
dome-shaped object that the drill couldn't penetrate.
You did the analysis of the, uh,
samples that we sent?
-Yes, we did. -TRAVIS: Ah.
And when we had them analyzed at the University of Utah,
we found out that they were composed of a mixture
of elements that NASA used
as a protective coating on the space shuttles.
So, one of our main goals this year
is to determine just what could be buried
inside that mesa.
ERIK: I think one of the ways we get answers to the mesa
is to do a different kind of survey,
and I'm thinking ground-penetrating radar.
So, we have a GPR capability that we're going to deploy
this year, which is gonna allow us to kind of paint
that whole area and see down into the ground
and see if maybe there is a big, a big void
like we've had described to us.
Excellent.
Also, I want to continue expanding the effort
out into the homestead, of course,
but also, we have this opportunity
right out there at the triangle.
Yeah.
TRAVIS: Over the past three years,
we've been perplexed by a zone
about a mile above a place on the ranch we call the triangle.
We've got liftoff.
TRAVIS: Oh, my God, during launch, the electromagnetic spectrum
is going crazy, guys. I've never seen anything like it.
TRAVIS: We've detected the 1.6 gigahertz signal there,
and we've seen rockets
and lasers deflected by some invisible
force or object.
So, I'm showing radar altimeter, it's showing
we're only 40 feet above the ground right now.
TRAVIS: We also took
Brandon's helicopter up there to scan it
and had a shadowy UAP fly
back and forth about 40 feet below us.
-TRAVIS: See that? -BRANDON: My gosh.
TRAVIS: And last year...
Here.
This thing's really clipping along.
Oh, my gosh.
It disappeared. Can you replay that?
TRAVIS: We watched a UAP ascend from the mesa
toward that mile-high zone
and then just vanish into thin air.
BRANDON: Are we seeing portals open?
-Yeah. -TRAVIS: Brandon's not crazy
to mention portals.
People, including scientists,
have reported seeing portals here for years.
I just don't know what to make of all that yet.
There's a level of anomalous phenomena
happening over the triangle that, somehow,
we need a better handle on.
BRYANT: That begs the question, then.
-How do we follow up? -So, I'm contemplating
a new experiment, you know, taking a-a slam scanner,
a LIDAR-based device, up into the air with the helicopter.
TRAVIS: That's a good idea. You know, it would be nice to have
a really good LIDAR measurement at altitude,
at 5,000 feet, right over the center of the triangle.
Could we do that with a helicopter?
How heavy is this equipment?
Well, it's-it's handheld. It's a handheld LIDAR device.
-Yeah. -TRAVIS: So, we'll open the doors,
and-and fly around the perimetry of it,
holding the LIDAR out the edge of the door
and-and mapping as we go. It takes its own
GPS information, which will be interesting
if it gets anomalous behavior from that.
So, while members of the team are out there conducting
these experiments, I think it would be smart to have
Tom and Kandus and Jim
move out to the community in order
to interview those who will bring additional information
and experiences to light.
JIM: I'm actually finding the community,
uh, willing to embrace us.
I think a lot of it is because of the credibility
that we bring to the table.
KANDUS: Yeah, so we are excited.
We have a lot of leads in the community this year.
-Yeah, so that stigma is breaking down... -Mm-hmm.
...like we've-we've said,
and it is easier to get people to-to speak.
BRANDON: Well, for you,
for Jim and you,
thank you for building those relationships.
Yeah, thank you. You bet. Thank you.
Thank you, everyone, for your continued hard work.
We all have our marching orders.
Let's press onward.
-Thank you. -Thanks, Brandon.
Fantastic. Let's get to work, guys. We got a lot to do.
BRANDON: Hey, fellas.
Finally meeting the great Pete Kelsey.
-Finally meeting you. -Thank you.
After our first meeting, technologist Pete Kelsey arrived
to help us with our first experiment
of the year at the triangle.
Over the last couple of years,
he's brought in numerous scanning devices
that have detected a lot of phenomena all across the ranch.
So, what do we have here?
PETE: That is the Hovermap.
Um, basically, handheld LIDAR.
I'm gonna strap myself to your helicopter
and see what we get.
Are you saying you're going to literally hang outside
the helicopter and scan the space with this device?
With your permission, of course.
Okay.
TRAVIS: As Cameron Fugal flies me and Pete Kelsey
up through the triangle, Pete will be strapped in
and scanning the area with a LIDAR device.
It works by emitting infrared laser light
that we hope will reveal anything
that can't be seen with the naked eye,
and might help explain all the UAPs
and other phenomena we've detected up there.
So, that is the first part of our exercise today.
-There's a second part. -What's that?
TRAVIS: Erik's gonna turn on a broadcast
of the 1.6 gigahertz signal. Right?
Then, when we get to 5,000 feet, these guys
are gonna launch a rocket
from here. Now, it's gonna go up
probably to about 1,500 feet, no more than 2,000 feet.
I-I feel comfortable with that.
Now, uh, isn't-- aren't rockets
and broadcasting at 1.6 how you make things happen here?
THOMAS: Yeah.
ERIK: Now, the first part
of our exercise today
is an area on the eastern side of the property
where we've seen anomalous data in our photogrammetry,
-suggestive of something. -THOMAS: Yeah.
Pete, you caught this with your first scan
with the photogrammetry.
Now, you get to go hover
above it in a helicopter and see
if you can catch it with your LIDAR.
TRAVIS: The east field is a location
about a half a mile from the triangle
where some of the strangest things have happened
during our investigation.
Spinning up.
TRAVIS: Right at the end of last year,
Pete conducted a photogrammetry scan in the east field
near a mysterious circle of stones
that sits up on the mesa.
According to Navajo historian Jon Dover,
ancient Indigenous people created the feature
to represent a portal on Skinwalker Ranch.
Whoa.
-ERIK: Okay. -THOMAS: In the sky.
-KALEB: Right there. -ERIK: Yes.
-TRAVIS: Oh, weird. -ERIK: Yes.
TRAVIS: Well, what Pete's scanner detected just blew us away.
-ERIK: Look at this structure. -That's nuts.
ERIK: Well, just think about what it would mean
if we saw the same kind of anomaly
with two completely different technologies.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, let's go ahead and, uh, commence the experiment.
-What all goes? Everything? -Everything.
ERIK: It's generally true, in science, that we place
the highest confidence in results that repeat themselves.
So, as we survey
just over the east field here
and in the vicinity of the triangle...
-Thank you. -You bet.
ERIK: ...we want to understand
whether we're dealing with a persistent effect
in those two regions of the ranch because we have no idea.
TRAVIS: All right, so let's figure out what hardpoint we want
-to snap to. -Okay, let's go around.
While Pete scans with his LIDAR device
out the open door of the helicopter,
I'll be right beside him watching the monitor
to see if the LIDAR picks up any structure or objects.
Let me have that rocket motor and that igniter.
TRAVIS: Meanwhile, Dragon, Kaleb and Thomas
will be on the ready to launch rockets.
They'll also be broadcasting the 1.6 gigahertz
communication signal that we've recorded in the past...
-All right, well, we're all set up in here. -Great.
TRAVIS: ...which Erik and Brandon will be monitoring
on his systems during the experiment.
Both of these tools have been very effective in stimulating
bizarre activity on the ranch in the past,
so, hopefully, by the end of today,
we'll get some answers about these locations.
TRAVIS: Hey, guys,
uh, we're ready to go in the chopper.
All right, copy that. You guys be careful up there.
We don't want to lose Pete.
We've got him tied in with four different ways.
Everything's checked.
BRYANT: This year, the first experiment we're gonna try
involves having one our experts hanging out of a helicopter.
I don't know what's gonna happen,
but this is a pretty dangerous experiment,
and I hope it yields some results.
Here we go. Hang on, Pete.
TRAVIS: First, go hit the east field, okay?
CAMERON: All right.
BRANDON: Now, we're tracking.
Hopefully, we'll be able to capture something interesting.
Yeah, every time Pete's been out here,
something interesting has happened.
Well, this will be good.
Activity is unpredictable at Skinwalker Ranch.
But we've found that there are certain methods
that you can utilize in order to stimulate response.
This very aggressive experiment is an important part
of this stage of the investigation and we are
committed to getting the answers.
Bryant, I just turned it on.
Will you radio Erik and see if they're seeing it?
Erik,
Thomas has just turned on the 1.6.
Just confirming if you can see that signal or not.
Yeah, I've got good signal.
BRYANT: Terrific.
Well, we're broadcasting the 1.6, so...
we'll see if that causes any reaction.
TRAVIS: All right, the east field.
We should be about over it right in here.
CAMERON: Okay.
-All right, I'm gonna start scanning. -TRAVIS: Yup.
-All right. -Okay.
All right, nice and easy, Cameron.
All right, we're going.
I see the ground.
We're getting buffeted from the wind a little bit.
But there's no freaking wind.
-Whoa! Whoa! -Whoa!
We're getting our asses kicked.
Feel that, that's just crazy.
(grunting)
-Oh, wow! We're getting something. -CAMERON: What?!
TRAVIS: We are getting an anomaly in the air right now!
-Right there. -You're kidding!
No, I am not kidding.
TRAVIS: We're getting a significant anomaly
in the air right now.
It was clearly an anomaly floating in the sky.
I've been following them.
I know, I don't see anything either.
The helicopter is getting buffeted out of the way
like there's a vortex or something here.
This is crazy.
TRAVIS: Right where we obtained photogrammetry images
of a mysterious column-shaped anomaly
above the east field one year ago...
There are some very interesting artifacts showing up.
TRAVIS: Whoa.
TRAVIS: Pete Kelsey's LIDAR scanner, which emits infrared light,
detected an image of something about 300 feet up in the air.
And what was even crazier was that some kind
of invisible force was literally pushing
Brandon's helicopter around in midair.
It looks like it's being pushed around
from the ground right now.
They're getting pushed around.
You can see the helicopter, like, rocking.
BRYANT: And I'm picking up nothing just visually.
Wow!
What the hell is going on?
-You see how he's moving? -Yeah.
Oh, my gosh, you can see. Look at that.
THOMAS: The helicopter definitely looks like
it's rocking around down here.
TRAVIS: The outside wind speeds
that registered on the helicopter's instruments
were totally insignificant.
It was just this strange, invisible force
that we couldn't see pushing us around.
I have no scientific explanation for it.
I just know it's where we saw
a column-shaped anomaly above the stone circle last year
and now an object of some kind
on the LIDAR readout.
I think we're good. We've got a really nice
3D map of the entire area.
-Cameron, I think we're good. -Okay.
TRAVIS: I say we fly right by the triangle.
PETE: Yep.
TRAVIS: I couldn't believe what had happened to us
over the east field and the preliminary data
we got on Pete's LIDAR scanner.
It still needed to be processed,
but based on our experiences so far,
we were really anxious
about what we might find above the triangle.
I mean, we're at the triangle right now.
PETE: All right, so give me about ten seconds
and we'll be scanning.
TRAVIS: Uh, it's running, it says.
PETE: Are you seeing data then?
TRAVIS: Nothing yet.
Holy cow, there's something right outside the aircraft.
-You're kidding! -TRAVIS: No, I am not kidding.
You were at 300 feet
and were detecting an object in the air.
CAMERON: What?!
Copy you, Cameron.
PETE: You've got to be kidding me.
We are about 300 feet above ground level.
You can see the green is the ground
and the red is the thing.
-PETE: This is unbelievable. -Unbelievable.
TRAVIS: In the past, all the phenomena we've detected
above the triangle has been nearly a mile up in the air.
But as soon as Pete started scanning
with the LIDAR, he detected something strange
beginning at an altitude of just about 300 feet.
We had never seen anything at the triangle
that close to the ground before.
They're climbing.
I don't know why, but I feel really nervous about this.
TRAVIS: It froze up, Pete. It's checking something.
PETE: Nah, it's scanning.
Yeah, well, it's telling me that it's checking.
It's not writing any more data.
PETE: All right, stand by.
No, it says it's disconnected, which is odd.
Disconnected? That doesn't make any sense.
Wow, that's weird.
Hey, well, your GPS is off from your pressure.
TRAVIS: We're-we're getting discrepancies, right now.
Command Center, how you doing? This is Cameron.
(static)
TRAVIS: So the ground went away.
It was green and now the ground's turned red.
And, uh, the anomaly above it is-is still red.
I think we need to set down and reset this thing.
Okay.
PETE: All right, I'm going to stop scanning.
-(instruments beeping) -Uh...
TRAVIS: Whoa.
Oh, my goodness.
TRAVIS: Whoa.
Why'd they land in the field?
Radio them.
Travis, do you copy?
Hey, Erik, do you copy inside the Command Center?
Yes, I do. What's up?
BRYANT: I want to reach out to Cameron.
They ended up landing out in the field
for some odd reason.
ERIK: In the field?
We're reset, we're about to relaunch
and go do it again.
BRYANT: Copy that.
We'll keep our eyes on you as well.
TRAVIS: Yep.
TRAVIS: Understood.
After we finished our LIDAR scan above the east field,
we were eager to head southwest to the triangle.
-All right, I'm going to start scanning. -Yep.
Just let me know when you've got data.
We're getting data right now,
there is something right outside the aircraft.
As soon as we approached the triangle,
we started detecting some kind of anomaly again
right around 300 feet high.
I was getting really anxious
about what was going to happen next.
Just start spiraling up, Cameron.
Copy you, Cameron.
-Holy cow! -PETE: What, what, what?
Look at that.
-You see it? -PETE: Yes.
TRAVIS: We've got an anomaly,
a clear anomaly right beside us.
We've had eyes on it with three sets of binoculars
and we've seen nothing.
TRAVIS: Uh, we at 5,000 feet?
We're almost there.
Tell them to launch.
TRAVIS: Right as we reached the mile-high zone,
this huge mass showed up on the LIDAR,
and with the 1.6 gigahertz signal being broadcast,
it was time to launch a rocket
and poke this nest as hard as we could.
Three, two, one!
There it goes!
Yeah.
TRAVIS: Which is what we've seen before, Cameron.
Right here.
TRAVIS: Wow.
-Whoa! Whoa! -CAMERON: Whoa!
PETE: There you go.
TRAVIS: Wow.
(instruments beeping)
(beeping)
Yeah, we got a downdraft right there.
-A little ass kick there. -CAMERON: Yeah, yeah.
TRAVIS: As we approached the mile-high zone
above the triangle,
where we saw a UAP literally disappear one year ago,
really strange winds started encircling
the helicopter like a vortex.
It really made me nervous
about what the hell we were flying into.
Yeah, I think it's time to abort.
Copy you, Cameron. We will clear the helipad.
ERIK: It's exciting to see that we're getting
interesting returns in real time
over the east field and over the triangle.
-Pretty wild. -Holy crap.
I really want to know are these real features that we're seeing?
Shake my hand.
Heck yeah.
Wow, you guys.
TRAVIS: Y'all are not going to believe this.
THOMAS: Well, Pete's face has me thinking
you guys caught something amazing.
What did you see?
TRAVIS: There is an anomaly
that this LIDAR picked up in midair!
300 or 400 feet above the ground.
It's impossible. It's impossible.
It remained there, too.
It wasn't a quick blip. As we circled
and made orbits, it-it remained.
Let's process the data as soon as possible.
Cameron and I want a full report at earliest convenience.
Well, we got to go crunch some data.
-Yes, we do. -Okay.
-Yeah, let's go. -Let's get on that data!
-Yeah. -I want to take this harness off!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ERIK: Well, guys, we've got Brandon and Cameron and Pete
on the line for video call.
TRAVIS: Oh, yeah.
Hey, Brandon.
Hey, greetings.
It's good to be with you.
TRAVIS: Pete Kelsey spent two days processing
all the LIDAR data we collected
above the east field and the triangle,
so we couldn't wait to review it with him and Brandon.
We needed to figure out what we'd encountered up there
that had affected the helicopter's flight
and controls so dramatically.
PETE: This is the data from the helicopter flight.
TRAVIS: So here we are over the east field.
PETE: What you're seeing, the icon of course is us.
The magenta line is our trajectory,
that is the direction we're flying.
And we can see that the data is following the aircraft.
TRAVIS: Something about it that was-- oh, right there it did...
See how it's doing these zigzag jumps?
Something moved the helicopter.
It-it was unbelievable.
I mean, we were all like, "Whoa! What was that?!"
It wasn't just left and right oscillations,
it was forward and aft,
left and right all almost simultaneous.
It was as if you had two magnets
next to each other, repelling each other.
Whatever it was, it was trying to push us off.
You know, I think that has to mean something.
PETE: That's right.
Now I'll call your attention to...
We have anomalous data in the same general area.
TRAVIS: So, here we are over the east field.
BRANDON: Oh, wow.
This is right where I had the interference
-with the helicopter as well, isn't it? -Yes.
TRAVIS: And-and there's where I said you know what?
We've got an anomaly in the spot again.
-This red feature. -That red feature floating in midair.
Above... And there's no trail to it.
Be advised, I should disclose some issues
with this first scan.
This is the incredibly frustrating part.
I've spoken with the vendor,
I mean, we've gone through it at length.
The vendor looked at this and went, "Nah, you're ghosting."
And ghosting is just...
the scanner picking up probably my feet, the skid.
THOMAS: Well, I would just expect consistency.
You know, if you're picking up returns
from the blades above or the skid below,
then I would expect to see that through the whole thing,
-but the fact that you're only seeing it over one point... -Yeah.
What is it about this ranch that continues to throw us off?
TRAVIS: It was really sobering to all of us to hear from Pete Kelsey
that the LIDAR data might not have been accurate.
But there were certain things about it
that just couldn't be explained away.
Pete, go forward, let me... I'll tell you when to stop.
Go forward about... Right there, right there. Stop.
Now, when you look at that,
this is right dead center over
where the column was there
in your photogrammetry data.
And-and if you look,
there's no pathway to it,
it's not anomalous features until that spot.
Wow.
TRAVIS: In the exact same spot
where we identified
the column-like anomaly one year ago,
we now have a second kind of scanning technology
that seems to be detecting something strange again.
If you can back up two frames, Pete.
Stop! Perfect. Look at that.
I-I'm gonna go to the screen
So, come on, guys, we've got...
some kind of wing-like features.
I mean, you look at that,
there's three-dimensional detail here.
There was nothing there.
We flew a helicopter and we wouldn't fly
that close to an object like that.
This distance right here from there to there
is probably ten meters.
Look at it. It tends to have a shape to it.
CAMERON: Oh, my gosh.
That's actually pretty distinct.
That is compelling.
Now, if we were standing
in the road of the driveway looking north,
and we took Pete's photogrammetry data
and overlaid it on this image,
you would see the pillar
come up just like this.
Right where this spot is.
Wow.
TRAVIS: In the same spot
where we detected a column-shaped anomaly last year,
our LIDAR experiment
may have also identified something strange.
And this is right near a location
on top of the mesa
where ancient Indigenous people
built a stone monument that's meant to represent
a portal on Skinwalker Ranch.
BRANDON: What could that be?
We don't know what it is,
but there's something that was anomalous about that spot,
and we got it on multiple sensors now, at least two.
BRANDON: I'm sitting here just stunned
because, I mean, no matter what,
we're dealing with something that is a mystery.
And that it's only over the east field?
Oh, it happened at the triangle, too.
PETE: All right, guys, what I'm going to bring up now
-is the data at the triangle. -Yep.
PETE: There is what appears to be ghosting
along the trajectory that we actually flew.
TRAVIS: But why so many in the one spot
as we're, uh, circling around the triangle?
Well, again, I would expect if you're seeing, uh,
returns from either the-the blades above
or the-the skid below,
that it would be consistent through the whole flight.
But that's the weird part. Why is it not?
PETE: So, I-I'm with you, I mean, there's no trajectory line
where this first showed up. You see that?
-Yep. -PETE: To cut to the chase,
I don't think this is 100% conclusive in either direction.
I-I agree with that.
BRANDON: Yeah, it is so frustrating,
because it seems like we're so close
to understanding what we are dealing with.
We're seeing these things appearing
that have no conventional explanation.
It-It's so damn elusive.
I... If there's any way
we can execute on another experiment
in rapid succession to this,
to seize this moment,
and get some answers, I say go for it.
TRAVIS: Well, uh, first and foremost,
Pete, uh, and Cameron,
the two of you may recall, but if I recall,
I think we were about, uh...
300, 400 feet or something like that, right?
Seems about right.
ERIK: There's something new here.
You know, uh, some of the interesting returns
were happening at much lower altitudes
than, uh, we've, uh...
-A thousand feet or more lower. -ERIK: Right.
During previous experiments at the triangle,
it seemed that different phenomena
occurred about 5,000 feet high.
But now, if the LIDAR data is correct,
it appears that something is going on between
300 feet and that zone.
Look, you see that?
TRAVIS: I do, did you see it bend?
Dude, did you see that?
TRAVIS: Last year, we were stunned to see lasers projected
up through the triangle mysteriously bend.
There it goes.
And rockets that we launched up there
get completely deflected off target
by something we couldn't see.
And those things did happen at various altitudes.
What was that bend all about?
So, could that mean that the anomalous zone
is shifting along a vertical plane
between 300 and 5,000 feet?
Or does it mean that it may cover the entire space?
At this point, we don't know if we can trust the LIDAR data,
so we're gonna have to find another way to verify
what we found at both the triangle and the east field.
We really need to look over the triangle area at,
you know, 400 feet or so.
So how do you envision that being done?
Uh, you know, you could get a-a swarm of drones.
-Because they all fly on GPS coordinates. -I like it.
TRAVIS: And fly them in a grid pattern,
and fly them around out there and see what happens.
And, you know, the way we've seen GPS messed up,
who knows what it would do?
You know, these people probably go...
People that do these drone swarms for like light shows
and stuff, they are precise.
And the patterns do all these geometric shapes.
You get them out here and fly them over the triangle
where the GPS messes up, there's no telling what you would see.
BRANDON: No pumping the brakes at this point.
Let's just go full steam ahead.
TRAVIS: Well, let's do it. Let's move forward.
KALEB: Yeah, let's go.
TRAVIS: There's something odd going on at this ranch.
I want to know the answer to so many things.
Just what in the world is going on here?
ERIK: Every time we begin this work,
I never know what to expect.
And I've been surprised if not shocked by the outcome
of each of our aggressive experiments.
This year, we have some things in mind
that might also be considered aggressive,
but also visionary
and quite different from what we've done before.
BRYANT: Coming into this investigation,
we had such little information.
But now it's coming to light
that so many different government entities
were so interested in this place,
it makes me feel like we're truly on to something
and all eyes are watching.
BRANDON: My hope is to find answers.
Gain new insights, be able to understand
the nature of what we are dealing with at the ranch.
The deeper down the rabbit hole that we travel,
the more complex that it appears.
There are no easy answers at Skinwalker Ranch.
THOMAS: I really don't know what to expect here at the ranch.
Okay, we've got a light that's moving.
TRAVIS: There it is, right there!
That looks like a bona fide UFO to me.
ERIK: There is something metallic in the mesa.
Whatever this is, is as tall as the mesa.
We should be digging, drilling right there.
BRANDON: The closer that we are getting to the answers,
the more covert military activity.
TRAVIS: We have a helicopter right over the triangle!
BRYANT: It just went dark!
It was a Black Hawk helicopter.
-THOMAS: Somebody's up on the ridge. -TRAVIS: Right there!
BRANDON: We seem to be poking the hornet's nest like never before.
There's a heat source right above them.
Do you feel like this may be
-a dangerous area to be working in? -Very.
The coyotes didn't kill this animal.
Middle of the day, an orb like that showing up, that's crazy.
ERIK: This is the largest scale experiment
that we've ever done here so far.
-Fire! -TRAVIS: We've got a malfunction!
There's something in the sky above the rocket!
We're maybe looking at the anomaly
for the first time, guys.
BRYANT: There is definitely something here
on Skinwalker Ranch.
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