As we survey just over the east field here
and in the vicinity of the triangle...
All right, we're going.
We want to understand
whether we're dealing with a persistent effect
in those two regions of the ranch.
- What? - We are getting
an anomaly in the air right now.
You were at 300 feet and were detecting
- an object. - You're kidding?
I don't know why, but I feel
really nervous about this.
We're getting buffeted from the wind a little bit.
Whoa, whoa.
We're getting our asses kicked.
The helicopter just... just moved.
Whatever it was, it was trying to push us off.
What could that be?
It tends to have a shape to it.
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After our experiments last week
above the triangle and over the east field,
where we detected anomalies 300 feet in the air
and Brandon's helicopter was pushed around
by some kind of invisible force...
Man, you got a big crew with you.
We invited the team from Sky Elements
out to the ranch to see if they could help us
verify and also identify
just what could be happening in those two areas.
We got Preston, Tyler, and the team.
Welcome to the Skinwalker Ranch.
Thanks. Love to be here.
Now, unfortunately, Pete Kelsey was afraid
that his lidar scanner may not have gotten accurate data.
So here we are, over the east field,
and there's where I said, you know what,
we've got an anomaly in this spot again.
Be advised,
the vendor looked at this and went, "you're ghosting,"
and to cut to the chase,
I don't think this is 100% conclusive
in either direction.
I-I agree with that.
Something was clearly happening
to the helicopter in both locations.
So now we're hoping that Sky Elements
can run a safer and much more comprehensive scan
over the triangle and the east field
with their cutting-edge drone technology
to get us better data and hopefully some answers.
I was going to ask how much homework
you guys have done on this before you said yes.
Very little.
We've flown in a lot of,
you know, complex locations,
so we're looking forward to it.
Tell 'em, Pete.
I've lost three drones here.
One over the triangle,
where we'll be flying tonight.
It's worth mentioning that
during some of our helicopter exercises, also,
we've had unusual, um, air current patterns.
There was a lot of buffeting of the helicopter during our study
of this anomaly that we're talking about
in the vicinity of the triangle,
so you might see the drones struggling to maintain position.
I don't think we've ever brought expert on
where their equipment has operated
the way that it was designed to operate,
and so if you have malfunctions, we need to know.
Why don't you tell us a little bit about Sky Elements
and what you guys do?
So, we take, you know, 100, 200 drones,
or even a thousand drones, and make a synchronized swarm
to make all kinds of images or shapes or anything like that.
I brought Kyle and Tyler out here with me
to help manage everything and get this going today.
Very cool.
We've been wanting to fly
a pattern of drones, over certain
anomalies that we have. We have two specific anomalies.
The east field and the one at the triangle.
And the first place we want to start is the triangle.
The idea of the experiment is to take Sky Elements' drones,
which are typically used for huge light shows,
and launch them over the triangle and the east field
to watch their illuminated formations
against the night sky.
That will make it easy
to see any deviations in their preprogrammed patterns
and hopefully determine
the exact location of the anomalies
that we encountered last week,
about 300 feet in the air.
The team from Sky Elements will fly the illuminated swarm
of 200 drones in a huge rectangular formation
over both locations, starting with the triangle.
Erik is going to put GPS devices on the four drones
placed at each corner of the swarm.
This will help us monitor the drones' exact position
above our target areas during the experiment,
so if anything pushes the drones out of formation,
or if something even crazier happens to them,
those GPS trackers will hopefully help us
pinpoint the location of any anomalies
and figure out what they could be.
I will be watching you from
the ground with a terrestrial laser scanner,
so we will have visual and forensic
point cloud data of your every move when we're done.
So how many drones did you bring
- with you tonight? - We brought 200 with us.
200, and we're going to be able to fly them all at once?
- Absolutely. - All right, cool.
In addition to the GPS data
we're recording during the drone experiment,
Pete Kelsey is going to conduct
expansive ground-based 3D lidar scans
with what's known as a terrestrial scanner.
It emits infrared laser light
that will create a detailed map of the target areas,
and at the same time, can help identify anomalies
that the naked eye isn't able to see.
One more thing, once we get out there,
I kind of want to see what your flight plan is
'cause I... also, we're going to launch
a couple of rockets tonight, and I need to make sure
we launch the rockets in a place where the recovery
and the launch is going to be completely safe
form-from your flight path.
Absolutely. Once we get over there,
- I can show you all that. - All right.
Well, I suggest we get out there
and get all set up. We're losing daylight.
Let's do it.
The opportunity to bring drones out here
and put them up in the air
is something I'm really excited to witness.
We have a big job ahead of us.
I mean, this is a big setup,
and it requires a lot of people to make it work successfully.
- All right, ready? - We got to start getting your stuff out
and lets figure out where you got to be.
It's going to be interesting to see if these drones
can keep their position, and if they don't
start falling out of the sky
like we've seen with other drones.
Which way do they go? Like that?
While we were getting everything set up
at the triangle for the drone experiment...
Okay.
Nearby, ranch manager
Jim Morse, along with ranch caretakers.
Kandus Linde and Tom Lewis...
- Hey. - How you doing?
Were meeting with Lloyd Arrive,
a DJ at Native Voltage Rez Radio.
Over the last four years,
we've found that bizarre things happen
outside the boundaries of Skinwalker Ranch,
and Brandon Fugal had recently heard from Lloyd
that he had quite a story to share
about a place known as Bottle Hollow.
It's a reservoir about a mile north of the ranch
where a lot of strange phenomena
have been reported in the past by local residents.
So, how long have you lived out here?
Well, I lived here when I was a little kid
with my grandpa and grandma.
So you're Ute?
I'm Ute. Yeah. I'm Northern Ute.
I'm Uncompahgre,
- Northern Ute. - Okay, fantastic.
So, you understand the genealogy
or the lineage here associated with the Navajo and the Ute,
and the Navajo cursing the ground out here and...
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, just...
You know, the stories that goes on
with the... with the Natives or with the Utes around here.
The lore of the skin walker really initiated
back in the mid-1800s.
This is when the Navajo and the Utes
got into... more than a skirmish.
The Navajos ended up cursing the Utes with the skin walker,
a transformation of a human being
into an animal form.
Some Native Americans don't talk about it
because they don't want that curse put on them.
So there's a level, not only of just respect,
but fear of this lore.
Well, we over there at the, Skinwalker Ranch
are very respectful.
We're out here as guests, and so we appreciate
any kind of feedback that you can give us.
- Yeah. - So, it's my understanding
that you got some photographs
to show us that you captured over by Bottle Hollow?
Yes, I did, and, I created an event
that I set up on Bottle Hollow and played music
on a Fourth of July weekend.
We were, um, tearing down the equipment,
and this lady that lives on the other side of the lake there,
she invited us to go get some food.
So, we were on our way down,
and we noticed the, noticed the,
canopy up there.
It was a quick snap.
We noticed that dot, you know,
- on top of it. - Wow.
But it didn't come toward us, it just went around,
and it headed towards the Skinwalker.
Wow.
Amazing.
And it was up there, and that's where it hovered.
Went back and forth,
and then finally it just disappeared.
Did it make any sound that you could hear?
No, no, no. It's not a plane,
it's not a helicopter,
it's just a... an object that's up there.
That's pretty profound.
We see those
from time to time over on Skinwalker.
Yeah.
I look at this photo he brings up on his computer
and immediately you can see
this is a UAP of some sort.
And it's very similar to the one that we saw
right above the cow that died on the ranch four years ago.
So, connections like this
that we're looking for in the surrounding community
may help us with the investigation on the ranch.
So, when you took this photograph, you were what,
maybe a quarter mile away from the lake?
- Yeah, yeah. - From Bottle Hollow?
- Yeah. - You said it was Sunday morning.
Was it in the morning?
It was in the afternoon. It was the afternoon
that-that it was there.
Is there anything else that you've seen
in this area around Bottle Hollow?
Yeah.
One night we were coming up here,
me and my nephew.
His name is Isaac.
And we come up on, Bottle Hollow.
And we seen a bright light from the same area
where this was, but it was in the evening time,
so I was, like, flashing my car light,
just messing around, but it flashed back.
Then it turned into, like, a red, glowing orb.
It was just going so slow.
- It was weird. - Yeah, yeah.
It's just becoming more and more clear
and evident that Bottle Hollow
is a unique and special place.
It's very close to the ranch.
There's obviously some sort of connection to the ranch,
and it deserves more research.
Well, Lloyd, I appreciate
that you reached out to us and wanted to-to share.
Yeah, because we've met so many locals,
and some that are willing to share their stories,
but not so much with the public.
I believe there's a lot of Natives that are out there
that are willing to talk with you,
you know, and I can plug that
in to my radio station too,
to have them get in contact with you guys.
- Okay, that works. - Yeah.
You know, I can do it, like, right now.
- Okay. - You can do it right now?
Excellent.
Lloyd offered to put out a message
on his radio station,
calling for people to come forward with their stories,
and that's very valuable.
I'd like to give out,
information to anyone out there
within the reservation
that would like to get in contact with Skinwalker Ranch.
If you've seen anything around Bottle Hollow
or any phenomenon within the basin,
get in contact and share your stories.
People aren't so willing, right now anyway,
to share their stories in an official way,
but with Lloyd's help, that will change.
And thanks for listening
to Native Voltage Rez Radio 90.3 FM.
- Cool. - Thank you very much.
Thank you, guys. Thank you very much.
Yeah, thanks, it's been a pleasure.
It's been a pleasure, Lloyd.
- We'll see you. - Yes, thank you.
I got to tape our GPS modules,
and then we are going to do the experiment.
So we're going to go over here
- and get it all done. - All right, fantastic.
Once the sun went down,
we were finally ready to begin our experiment
at the 300-foot altitude above the triangle.
As the team from Sky Elements did their final check
on the 200 drones...
Erik and I finished securing the GPS devices.
Perfect.
This will be interesting.
And I'll... pretty much guarantee it's never
- been tried before. - I'd agree with that.
And Pete Kelsey got his lidar device ready to begin
scanning the drones once they were launched.
Here we go.
I'm really excited to see the data we get from that,
I think it's going to be really cool.
Hey, how's it going?
We're getting there.
We're about ready, how are y'all doing?
Trying to make sure everything runs smooth.
For now, everything looks like it's good to go.
- We are ready to fly. - Fantastic.
Drones armed.
Turning on lights.
Lights are on.
All right, we have drones armed guys.
All right, we're good here.
Five, four, three, two, one.
Wow.
Look at that.
Okay, I'm broadcasting 1.6 gigahertz.
Right after the drones were launched,
Erik started broadcasting the 1.6 gigahertz frequency signal
that we've recorded on the ranch during our previous experiments.
All right, we'll be back after we launch the rocket.
- Okay. - Let's go.
And then, Thomas and I
headed to a position just west of the triangle,
so we could get a rocket ready to launch.
Both of these tools seem to have
stimulated phenomena to occur in the past,
so we wanted to see how it might affect the drone swarm.
They just moved into place.
- Look how tight they are. - Yep, yep.
That looks perfect.
All right, we're ready to roll.
Show's rolling.
- They're moving. - Yep.
Should be just about over the triangle here, guys.
Hey, look right here.
- What we got? - Hey, look.
We've got drones that are out of sequence.
Yeah, we do. There are several in a line
right down the middle of it!
Hey, Erik?
Yeah, go ahead, Travis.
There are several drones out of line
we can see from our perspective.
They are clearly out of place.
Yeah, we've got eyes on that.
When the 200 drones were first launched,
their preprogrammed formation looked perfect.
They were all in a tight, uniform pattern,
and lit up beautifully.
Where are they?
The pattern is directly
over the triangle right now, Travis.
They're going right through the anomaly.
But then, right when they reached
the 300-foot spot above the triangle,
several of them were clearly
diverted out of formation by something.
Our drones use very sophisticated GPS's,
we have a Wi-Fi network,
we have a redundant RF network.
These are precise positionings that we maintain.
So having those drones out of position
in that grid pattern was something very unusual.
Hey, Tyler, I just lost three drones,
losing four, losing five.
Well, how many drones do you have connected?
I have 80 disconnected.
Fail safe.
Look at that.
- What is this? - They're coming home.
Hey, guys, everybody stand by close to the grid.
We need to get these guys unplugged quick.
I've never seen that.
Something happened because those drones
had to return to the ground unexpectedly.
So they all landed way sooner than they were supposed to.
It's nothing that I can explain.
Let's head back over there.
All right, lets head back.
We've only seen those drones return to home
like that in extreme temperatures,
when we're working in the snow or the excess heat,
when those batteries are really getting pushed to the limit.
But out here on Skinwalker Ranch,
we only saw about 60 degrees at the lowest,
and it's nothing that should have happened.
Something interesting we're seeing.
Um, it appears the batteries are
draining quicker than usual, than what we usually see.
How much quicker?
I don't know that I can quantify it,
but I just noticed that some of them
seem to be decreasing quicker than usual.
Wow. Well, then maybe we need to fly quick.
So Erik warned us that weird things
happened with the electronics,
and we're very confident in our systems,
we've done hundreds of drone shows,
but there is definitely something going on here
that affects the batteries, the drone positioning,
all kinds of things that are just very unusual
and very unexplainable.
So we have a couple of options
for what we can fly next.
We can fly the grid again
and see if we see the exact same behaviors.
Repeatability is really good.
We would do the exact same thing.
We still got a rocket ready to go.
Yes, I agree, repeatability.
Given what we've seen and how unusual it is,
I'd love to see if it would happen again.
Yeah.
All right, drones are ready.
Let's roll.
Preston, whenever you're ready.
All right.
There they are.
- I see them. - There we go.
- That is cool. - Yeah, that is cool.
We are hot.
The rocket is armed and ready to launch.
Copy you.
In three, two, one...
Rocket just went, guys.
- There goes... - Look at them.
One's fall... One's falling! One's falling!
- Holy cow, look at that! - There goes another one!
- They're not coming down. - Are they bringing them down?
Whoa, that one's way... Whoa.
Whoa, what's-what's going on there?
I've lost all of them,
almost all of them disconnected right now.
It's going crazy. Look at it.
Way out. Look at that.
Just as soon as the swarm of drones
flew over the triangle, something interfered
with their controls, and inexplicably
altered their formation,
which Tyler and the team from Sky Elements
had never experienced before. Ever.
This is really something...
You can see them moving,
trying to stabilize themselves.
The amount of variability we saw,
specifically in the front and middle of that grid,
is not something we're used to seeing.
We saw almost all of them disconnect,
which is not something we've ever seen before.
Look, did you see the lines
suddenly straightened out?
I think they're moving to the south.
Is that what they're doing?
- It's straightened up. - It's getting better.
30 seconds to landing.
Something over the triangle clearly caused it,
because as soon as the drones
left that area to land,
they immediately came back online
and reassembled in their preprogrammed formation.
We could "what if" all night,
but what we have now is data.
We have data that says
there's something weird there.
- Yeah. - You know, we've done
so many experiments trying to just get
a handle on what could be causing the anomaly.
We've shined big lasers through it,
we've fired rockets through it,
we've flown around it with lidar
and GPS and all sorts of things,
and every single time we do something,
we seem to find some effect on our experimental system.
So, there's no explanation
that really fits unless it's some magic physics
that we don't understand that's happening
very localized up there.
For sure.
I'm anxious to fly similar patterns,
if not exactly the same pattern,
in another interesting location on the ranch
off to the east, where we've seen
some very interesting effects in our surveys.
- Let's do it. - Yeah, let's...
After what we saw happen to the drone swarm at the triangle,
we couldn't wait to move
about a half a mile over to the east field
to run the experiment again.
Since we've also detected
aerial anomalies there in the past,
we were hoping to get more clues
about what could be causing
all these crazy phenomena on the ranch.
Where we're set up right here
is almost exactly underneath the anomaly
that your photogrammetry showed.
Now when he came out
and did a photogrammetry scan of this area,
for some reason there were multiple pictures showing
some type of spire
that went up into the air several hundred feet.
So there have been anomalies captured
in two different times here, a year apart.
One year ago, using photogrammetry
above the east field, Pete Kelsey detected
a massive pillar-shaped anomaly.
Just last week, when Pete scanned the same area
with a lidar device from Brandon's helicopter,
we were stunned when he detected
something nearly 300 feet in the air,
which matched up perfectly
with the top of the pillar.
I say we get these things in the air.
- Yeah, great. - Let's get it going.
All right.
Let's hook the ignitor up.
30 seconds to takeoff.
30 seconds, guys!
Ten seconds to lift.
Had one go early.
Yeah, I was going to say. What the...
I've never seen that.
What...
Inexplicably,
before Preston launched the drone swarm,
one just took off on its own,
and ascended to its preprogrammed position.
I've never seen that, GPS is on.
Stay with it.
Remainder of takeoff.
Hey, hey, here we go.
They had one go early, Travis.
I saw that.
It's up there flying around by itself,
- ain't it? - Yep.
One of them's acting... Look it flew up to it.
Hey, we got holes.
Yeah, we got... How many?
Once the swarm launched and joined
the one that went rogue, almost immediately,
several of them went offline
and fell out of formation.
Four, I think there's four missing. Five.
It made me think it could be connected to the anomaly
that we've repeatedly detected there.
So, I wanted to see if we could stimulate
some hard evidence to prove it.
Rocket's going hot. Everybody clear the rocket.
Armed.
Ignition in five, four, three, two, one.
Rocket's going.
- Where's the chute? - There it goes, there we go.
I mean that's a pretty nice, tight formation right there.
It's a lot tighter than we were seeing in the other location.
Yeah, yeah, near the triangle.
It wasn't like that.
You can start to see some wiggle in the middle.
Yeah, right in the middle.
Yeah, look in the middle.
Look in the middle, guys. The drones are kind of
wiggling around. There's no wind at all.
All right, as you come this way,
look, the ones in the middle got stable again.
So, when we were right over there,
there was some instability.
That's right where you were at in the helicopter, right?
Yeah, you're exactly right.
The closer that these drones flew
to this anomaly up in the air,
the more interference they were experiencing,
the harder time they had staying in their pattern.
It'll be interesting to see what kind of data
we get from Erik and his GPS sensors,
from Pete and his terrestrial scanner,
as well as the data from Pete's drone up above.
We got something right there.
Right where, right where?
Right... Right where my light's at.
- Yeah, it is. - That's it right there.
Travis.
This just changed direction!
What is it?
There it is, there it is right there.
There's a thing hovering over the launch site.
Wow.
Right there.
That's crazy.
It just disappeared.
It went up into the cloud.
They're coming back.
Yeah, they're moving down now.
One of the brightest UAPs
I've ever seen on the ranch appeared
and moved slowly across the sky
for several seconds, but then it just vanished.
- It was bright. - It was really bright.
So where... did it disappear?
It came from the west and then it looked like
it was below the cloud.
And it disappeared.
Hey, guys, what do we have going on?
Y'all didn't happen to see the thing overhead
just a few minutes ago, did you?
- I actually did, yeah. - You saw it?
- Yeah. - We saw it, yeah.
We both saw it. It was really bright,
It was actually really low. It didn't really add up.
It was like below the clouds.
- I agree. - Yeah.
And then it looked like it went into the cloud
and then it never came out the other side.
And it never came out.
I've got a question for you.
You described something unusual that happened.
Can you go through that again?
We've never seen it where
we can see that all the drones are connected,
but we can't communicate with them in some form or fashion.
What was also very interesting
was on this last flight, we had one drone
start right before all the others,
and we've never seen that.
They all go together. They all have
the same signal.
Well, that one drone that took off
was actually in the center of that region
of the drones that didn't want to connect.
Sky Elements has done shows
all over the country, we've done hundreds of shows.
I've sent up thousands of drones,
and there's issues we've seen
this evening that have been things
we've never seen before.
Every single expert
that we have brought on, I think the ranch
has a perfect record of them
seeing something they've never seen before, so...
I think this experiment was one of
the best things we've done
with precision, with so many data points.
You know how anxious I am to go pull the data off
- that laser scanner. - Yeah.
Between Erik's surveillance cameras
and Pete's scanning devices,
I can't wait to see what comes out
in the data once it's all processed.
Hopefully, we'll have more visual evidence
of whatever we saw in the sky,
and be able to identify just what it was.
Well, guys, I think this was amazing.
And, we've got a lot of data to, kind of,
absorb and-and analyze and think about,
but I appreciate it.
I can't wait for you to pull the data off,
but I say it's getting late.
Let's call it a night.
Great job, guys.
- All right. - Thanks a lot.
Thank you, thanks for having us.
We've got Pete Kelsey cued up for a video conference.
He's got a huge amount of data to share with us
from the drone experiments
that we've done out in the east field
and the triangle.
So, I think we should just jump right in.
- Awesome. - Love to see it.
Eric and I spent a couple of days
after the drone experiment
reviewing our surveillance footage of the UAP.
- Hey, Pete. - Hey, guys.
So we were eager to compare it to Pete's data
that he collected with the terrestrial lidar scanner.
I would like to release
the screen to you and see what you've got.
There we go, east field.
You can see the mesa here in the background.
- What is that? - That's got to be the rocket right there.
No, no, I'm talking about right there.
That is way over there.
That rocket never went... That's-that's...
That's a mile away.
We were shooting the rocket down right here, right?
So what on earth is that?
Exactly.
That's my question.
I want to know what in the heck
it is that's showing up out there
on the very edge of what that instrument can measure?
That's in the exact same spot where we saw the UAP come in.
Yeah, and that dot up there, to me,
seems a little bit unexplainable,
and is at about the right altitude
of the... of the thing that we saw in the sky.
We were amazed by the 3D map
of the east field and the mesa
that Pete's terrestrial lidar scanner
produced during the drone experiment
because it also appeared to capture the UAP
we saw off in the distance after the rocket was launched.
We really wanted to verify if that's what it was.
All right, so I think we need to look
at the footage of the ball in the sky,
and see if it kind of fits in the same location
as to what this anomaly is here in the lidar data.
Yeah, let me bring that up.
So, there's the object.
So, tell me how this differs
from what you saw with your own eyes.
It was a lot brighter when we were
looking at it in real time.
- Very bright. - Very bright.
And it came down, and,
and it, kind of, was going,
I'm going to say really slow.
And then it turned and went straight up
into the clouds and was gone.
Well, I took a shot of it with my cell phone,
- right? - Okay.
And so then, from that,
I did a 3D model of what the image looked like.
- And I have that. - Okay.
I have what you put together.
- Okay. - I'll bring that up.
So, now, if you notice,
it clearly looks like it's two halves.
And looking at it, it looks like it actually
has an indention, doesn't it?
There's some dark spot to it.
From modeling that, I've put this together.
And, this is kind of my idea of what it looks like.
There's dark spots on the end,
and it's like a dumbbell, sort of.
And it's interesting, it looks a lot like
one of the UFOs that an F-18 pilot
captured with a cell phone that they showed at the.
House Permanent Select Committee On Intelligence meeting
back a few months ago.
I was really struck by this UAP
that we saw on the ranch, because when I was
the chief scientist for the federal government's.
UAP task force between 2020 and 2022,
I reviewed a photograph of something very similar
that was taken by an American naval pilot
off the coast of Virginia in 2019.
As a scientist, it was really compelling
to see two possible examples of a similar,
if not the same, aerial phenomena.
It's not a focus error, it's not bokeh effect,
this is actually what it looked like,
and we saw it with our own eyes.
That's what this thing looked like.
So you got a sense that this is nuts and bolts.
I... I believe this might be a nuts and bolts
aircraft, and it was flying.
You know, that UAP
or UFO that we saw the night of the telescope last year
was the closest, brightest object that I have seen
in my time here on the ranch
until we saw this one.
Okay, this one was much lower,
I think it was much brighter and bigger.
And this one looks just like that one
from the telescope night.
That whole night was just so strange.
Kaleb and Thomas were exactly right.
This scope is pretty dead.
I aimed it manually in the anomaly area,
and then the camera wasn't working.
Last year, while we were trying to look
through the triangle anomaly with high-powered telescopes,
they malfunctioned just like the drone swarm did.
What the hell is that in the sky?
And then, suddenly we saw an eerily
similar UAP maneuver over the ranch.
There's no red or green or white lights on it.
It doesn't look like it's that far away either.
It's going right under Jupiter.
And it's almost as big as Jupiter.
- And it's bright. - That ain't an airplane.
It's getting dim.
It just disappeared.
I've got some data from the east field exercise to share.
So, we put GPS sensors on
four of the drones in that swarm.
Obviously not on all 200 of them.
I can throw it up on the screen
- if that would help. - Yeah.
So, this is the sum total of the data
that we got off all four of those drones.
And you are seeing all of the maneuvers
that those four individual drones underwent
during the whole exercise.
You know, I'm looking at
perfectly well-behaved formation
in the east field exercise.
It looks exactly like what I would have expected to see.
Yep, yep.
Okay, I think what we ought to do
is go over to the other part of the exercise
at the triangle.
I can't wait to get eyes on that.
Okay, so here...
Wow.
Whatever that is, it looks crazy as hell.
'Cause I don't remember it ever looking like that.
Erik's GPS devices were on the four corners
of the drone swarm.
So the data should have appeared just like
it did over the east field.
All intact and in one large cube.
But instead, it was scattered all around
into a shape that looked nothing like
what we saw during the actual experiment.
So, once again, something at the triangle
completely distorted our GPS data.
So there's a lot to discuss here.
One of the really puzzling features of this
is what happens when you look beneath the ground.
Whoa. It looks like some of them
- are inside the mesa. - Yep.
Look how many of them are under the surface.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- It looks like a tornado. - Right.
I don't recall any of the drones doing this.
No.
If I remember right, all these.
GPS's were on the corners.
So how's that in the middle?
Turn that up again sideways, Erik.
So we can see that tornado-looking shape.
Sure thing. You want to focus on
- this feature here? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Look right there.
If I was going to draw a wormhole two-dimensionally,
that's what it looks like.
It's two funnels connected at the throats of the funnel.
I'm just saying, something to think about.
What more proof do we need
that there's something going on out here?
- It's true. - Obviously,
there is something above the triangle
that we've identified with multiple experiments
that absolutely has its way with the GPS.
This raises a lot of questions.
I don't feel like
I'm nearly done with this data yet.
No, and I'm not comfortable with whatever it means yet either.
There's something else going on here.
Pete's got a bunch of data that he collected
during the exercise.
So, Pete, what have you got? Your,
terrestrial scanner... What else do you have here?
All right, guys, what I'm going to bring up now
is the data from the terrestrial laser scanner.
After seeing Erik's bizarre GPS data,
I couldn't wait to see Pete Kelsey's terrestrial
lidar scanner data
since it created a 3D map of both
areas where we conducted the drone experiments.
The hope was that it would give us some possible clues
as to what caused the phenomena.
So this is the data
from the first slide we did at the triangle.
You can see the mesa here in the background.
I'll just cut to the chase.
The one part that's strange, is right there.
What is going on there?
Is that a shadow?
If I give you a straight-down view...
So, there's a gap in the data.
Where is the data?
And you can see it all
sitting off to the side there.
It's back here.
I've never seen that before.
How far away is that?
Well beyond the range of the scanner.
So, I overlaid the data here in Google Earth,
and what I thought was really interesting
is the line, almost spot-on,
points right at the top of the mesa.
Wow.
That's hard to believe.
Look at that.
It's pointing right towards
the area where we drilled
into that dome-shaped, metal object last year.
That's very interesting.
The results of our experiment
two days ago at the triangle
have just gotten even more bizarre.
According to Pete Kelsey's computer model
of his lidar scans,
a huge chunk of the data is showing up
over the mesa, right where we drilled
into a 400-foot-long
dome-shaped metal object last year.
And not only that, but a metal object
made of materials that NASA uses
on its own spacecraft.
I guess the question that remains
is what kind of phenomena could spoof
your lidar system like that
to make it push the data way off
to make it think it's further than it is
and remove some of it?
Have you ever seen that before?
No.
I can't explain it.
Why do we keep getting GPS data
that is inside the mesa and underneath the ground?
This is an area where GPS
has been spoofed how many different times?
Yeah.
I think we've about seen everything.
That is a lot of data to digest.
Guys, I got to tell you, this is some of the best evidence
that we've been able to capture.
And it just goes to show,
we've got more work to do in both these places.
A hundred percent agree with that.
I'm really curious to hear from you two
as to what the next steps are going to be.
Every time we get these UAPs
on video, we get a few seconds.
What if we had a high-speed camera
so those few seconds might be
millions of frames or thousands of frames,
- or at least hundreds of frames? - Yeah.
Through my old government contacts
with the UAP Task Force,
I'm aware of camera systems
that could photograph the triangle area
in a much more comprehensive way
to let us get the best look possible at aerial phenomena.
It just might eliminate guesswork,
and help us identify these UAPs or UFOs,
if that's really what they are.
Also, we've got a lot of work to do
- inside the mesa. - Right.
I definitely got unfinished
- business out there. - I agree.
You can't look at the data we saw tonight
and think that we're done with that, right?
- Right. - Yeah.
We just got to figure out what to do next.
I would like to do some ground-penetrating radar
to see if we can get any insights
beneath that area.
- Yeah. - Absolutely.
Drilling has helped us to approximate
where this mysterious metal object in the mesa is buried,
but Erik is right.
Using ground-penetrating radar
will help us better define this anomaly's dimensions.
Then we can figure out how to reveal
just what the heck it really is.
I'm excited, I think we've got more hard data...
We've got as much hard data
right now, I think, as, even when
I was with the UAP task force, the things we saw.
- Wow. - I think this is amazing.
I'm ready to wrap it up,
- unless you guys... - Yeah, lets wrap it up.
- Great stuff. - About all I can handle.
Pete, thank you for joining us.
Yeah, my pleasure.
- See you later, Pete. - Take care.
Erik, this is awesome stuff, man.
This spot on the mesa
is turning out to be very interesting.
It's compelling evidence of something unusual.
This is clearly a spot of interest.
We've got to get into the mesa somehow
and find out what this is.
We are here to be led by the data.
We observe, we measure, and then our course is chosen
based upon the data in hand.
This approach has yielded
some really powerful insights so far,
some unexpected results,
things I never anticipated.
And this is how we're going to continue
as we conduct this investigation on the ranch.
These experiments continue to give us data,
data helping us understand the nature of the phenomena.
There is something tied to both the airspace
above Skinwalker Ranch
and also that which may lie below.
Our future investigation will undoubtedly
delve into these topics.
More than ever before.
The deeper we can see
into that mesa, the more we're going to
understand what it is we're messing with out here.
Let's hope the GPS works.
This is highly anomalous.
Whatever this is is as tall as the mesa.
We should be digging right there.
We got a malfunction.
Everybody watch out.
There's something in the sky above the rocket.
We may be looking at the anomaly for the first time, guys.
We have a helicopter right over the triangle.
He's doing surveillance right now.
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